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		<title>By: Wholesale Electronics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wholesale Electronics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China Cheap Electronics Wholesale and Dropship: Cell Phones (<a href="http://www.wholesalediy.com/mobile-phone-c-6.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wholesalediy.com/mobile-phone-c-6.html</a>), MP4 Players, Car DVD Players, Gadgets, Spy Cameras, Computer Patrs, and more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Singapore Escorts</title>
		<link>http://www.radicalbehavior.com/the-zend-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-2086</link>
		<dc:creator>Singapore Escorts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing is perfect but like all things, it can only gets better with fine-tuning over time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing is perfect but like all things, it can only gets better with fine-tuning over time.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil Sinclair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wil Sinclair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the Zend_Build proposal: http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Build+-+Wil+Sinclair

Most of the forms examples I&#039;ve seen have using the &#039;factory&#039; form of instantiation, like in Matthew&#039;s form webinar: http://www.zend.com/en/resources/webinars/framework

I can&#039;t help you with the DB components, but I know who can. :) You should ask if that&#039;s the best way on the fw-db list if you&#039;re not sure that&#039;s the best way to do it.

,Wil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the Zend_Build proposal: <a href="http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Build+-+Wil+Sinclair" rel="nofollow">http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Build+-+Wil+Sinclair</a></p>
<p>Most of the forms examples I&#8217;ve seen have using the &#8216;factory&#8217; form of instantiation, like in Matthew&#8217;s form webinar: <a href="http://www.zend.com/en/resources/webinars/framework" rel="nofollow">http://www.zend.com/en/resources/webinars/framework</a></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help you with the DB components, but I know who can. <img src='http://www.radicalbehavior.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  You should ask if that&#8217;s the best way on the fw-db list if you&#8217;re not sure that&#8217;s the best way to do it.</p>
<p>,Wil</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Kenzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Kenzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wil,
I have not  looked at the Zend_Build proposal as of yet. Do you have a link to it?

My comment on Forms might have been my relative inexperience. I thought it was odd to create each form element separately and then have to go through an additional step of adding it to the form. I&#039;m guessing this last step lets me set the display order?

Also, I needed to have a select object that was populated  with data from the database. I had to do a DB select, iterate through to add it to an array and then add that array to the select object. Seemed unnecessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wil,<br />
I have not  looked at the Zend_Build proposal as of yet. Do you have a link to it?</p>
<p>My comment on Forms might have been my relative inexperience. I thought it was odd to create each form element separately and then have to go through an additional step of adding it to the form. I&#8217;m guessing this last step lets me set the display order?</p>
<p>Also, I needed to have a select object that was populated  with data from the database. I had to do a DB select, iterate through to add it to an array and then add that array to the select object. Seemed unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil Sinclair</title>
		<link>http://www.radicalbehavior.com/the-zend-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-520</link>
		<dc:creator>Wil Sinclair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you think is cumbersome about the forms implementation? I can forward your feedback to Matthew.
Also, have you looked at the Zend_Build proposal? We haven&#039;t done scaffolding or project/code generation yet simply because we didn&#039;t feel that basing it on convention was the right choice for us. Zend_Build is extremely powerful and extensible. We should have a community prototype in not too long.

Glad you&#039;re enjoying ZF!

,Wil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you think is cumbersome about the forms implementation? I can forward your feedback to Matthew.<br />
Also, have you looked at the Zend_Build proposal? We haven&#8217;t done scaffolding or project/code generation yet simply because we didn&#8217;t feel that basing it on convention was the right choice for us. Zend_Build is extremely powerful and extensible. We should have a community prototype in not too long.</p>
<p>Glad you&#8217;re enjoying ZF!</p>
<p>,Wil</p>
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